what do you dislike about the spectralis ?

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Postby cram1960 » Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:29 pm

I dislike the manual. I would have preferred a straight "this is how you do this" manual with a proper index. The machine is very complex, and the manual just adds to the confusion.
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Postby Jörg Schaaf » Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:30 am

A lot of parameters in the Spectralis are depending on others. If I just would do a kind of reference manual, most users would also have problems with the manual. I highly recommend to try the examples in the manual. Just as an example. There is one section describing how to feed noise into the filterbank and how to sequence the filterbank then. There are enveloped amplifires in the signal flow and you must realize, why the filterbank keeps silent, when not triggered.
In a reference manual I would have the noise feeds in one chapter and the filterbank settings in another section and the step sequencer in a third section. How should that work?
Before starting you own work you should do these examples as they really give you another overall view of the Spectralis. The Spectralis is organized in a Learning by doing way. I am sure, some people did these exercises and learned a lot of them.
I agree that a proper index would be helpful though.
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Postby lloyd40 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:00 pm

Takes more than one reading. Way more than one. Here's my manual. The coffee stains indicate it's been programmer approved.

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Postby lloyd40 » Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:26 pm

One thing to consider beyond the manual. I really liked the way complexsystems organized the ambient soundbank. This was really helpful for workflow and understanding.

Naming all the banks and files so that when you are pushing stuff to your flash card, it is very easy to know what belongs with what.

Also, rather than setting up all songs as awesome songs, have some songs that are starting points for certain types of patches. For example the ambient soundbank has a song that helps you start using the ambient soundbank. It also has a song that helps you start using the filterbank model of programming and it includes an example for how you so this.

I found the hardest part of learning the Specki to be removing options rather than adding them. For example, if I used a patch that had some weird routing, figuring out how to disable it was harder than how to add the routing.

I also like the basic waveform collection in the ambient soundbank. It makes it really clear whether you are working with a waveform or a fully programmed sound, etc..

This can go a long way into making the users first experience better.
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Postby cram1960 » Thu Apr 09, 2009 6:57 pm

Jörg Schaaf wrote:A lot of parameters in the Spectralis are depending on others. If I just would do a kind of reference manual, most users would also have problems with the manual. I highly recommend to try the examples in the manual. Just as an example. There is one section describing how to feed noise into the filterbank and how to sequence the filterbank then. There are enveloped amplifires in the signal flow and you must realize, why the filterbank keeps silent, when not triggered.
In a reference manual I would have the noise feeds in one chapter and the filterbank settings in another section and the step sequencer in a third section. How should that work?
Before starting you own work you should do these examples as they really give you another overall view of the Spectralis. The Spectralis is organized in a Learning by doing way. I am sure, some people did these exercises and learned a lot of them.
I agree that a proper index would be helpful though.


Silly me. Forget I mentioned it.
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Postby Koffeinjunkie » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:59 pm

There are some minor inconsistencies in the current menu structure :
The parameter for LP, MM, FB are not always in logical order.
For example :On the panel it is (top->down) LP, MM, FB - in the pan menu it is MM, LP.
I think everything should be in the panel order, that would be much more intuitive.
It's a minor change that would really make things easier

And I would like to see a down arrow function in the hold envelope pages. If you press the up arrow encoder (decay) you enter the hold page. a down arrow on the holde encoder would allow switching between decay and hold without moving your finger from the encoder.
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Re: what do you dislike about the spectralis ?

Postby 22tape » Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:38 am

via wrote:well topic says it...

for me its the global feed to the analouge section for the drum and Dsynth section ... page 3/4 under volume per part
I'd like to be able to induvidually feed sample parts to the filters and filterbank ...
say I'd just want my kick though the LP and perc through the MM and the Dsynthand Hhats to the filterbank.. etc

also it be fantastic to have individual sends to the 3analouge filters of the MM... would this be possible in the future?


any changes on this? i was under the impression that drum parts and dsynths were freely routable through any of the filters. thanks.
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Re: what do you dislike about the spectralis ?

Postby Jörg Schaaf » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:44 am

The hardware does not allow independent routings for all parts. So, there is no update possible.
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Re: what do you dislike about the spectralis ?

Postby 22tape » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:09 am

Jörg Schaaf wrote:The hardware does not allow independent routings for all parts. So, there is no update possible.


thanks jorg. i'm trying to get my head around the routing. so what filters can the drum parts and dsynth be routed to?
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Re: what do you dislike about the spectralis ?

Postby Leshrac » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:27 pm

i dont like the clicks the filter envelop made if you use them experimentaly. jörg .. why the clicks and clips happen with filter envelope. also the attack time of the amplifier envelope is very pumping and unsmooth. maybe its possible to change the type linear or expotencial or a special form .. also it would be great to use a continous random lfo as envelope modulations. that would be best if its key linked/synced. also the unsynced lfo´s and the unfinished destinations in the sequencer menu.
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