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Re: the final countdown

Postby Leshrac » Sun May 29, 2011 10:32 am

thank you jörg !! that was really informative !!
so i´ll make a check up again for the end of the upcoming week.
i get nervous to know that the final release day of the ACC is coming closer :)

cant wait to try the new features and synthesis engine. the spectralis analog synth
sometimes sound like a modular synth. iam quiet sure it is amazing to play it polyphonical :P

*last questions:

the accelerator have a multimode. had every part a own midichannel with his own effectsection and
midiimplementation? so it would be possible to expect midi implementation in the spectralis for every single part?
so the accelerator is not just a synth but also a sequencer too if i understand right? will there be a song mode?
do you improve the song edit- and part record- functions of the spectralis as well?
iam sure the accelerator have improved parameters to edit a sound. will you implement some additional
parameters to the spectralis?

its like a interview :mrgreen:

iam sure the spectralis and the accelerator will be unbeatable together :twisted:
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Re: the final countdown

Postby Jörg Schaaf » Sun May 29, 2011 12:40 pm

The Accelerator in the basic version has two parts multitimbrality and eight parts with one expansion kit. Unfortunatly we have only 4 FX busses. So the eight parts must share 4 FX busses. But we put the EQ section into the voice structure - so you have a 3 band parametric EQ for every part.
THe voice structure has some similarities to the Spectralis but in detail there are a lot of differences. The biggest difference are the filters. They are analog on the Spectralis and they sound different. The Accelerator sounds expensive like the Spectralis but sounds different soundwise. There are differences in many details that have an influence on the sound. You will for example realize, that the envelopes of the Accelerator are snappier. That has to do with the higher performance of the DSP. At the Spectralis all sections have independent envelopes and LFOs. At the Accelerator you have a modulation matrix. So - if you want for example route a second envelope to a filter you can do that. A sound with a sharp and short Attack and Decay setting in the first envelope and a slow rising second envelope to open the filter after the snappy beginning is for example a sound, you can't get on the Spectralis without using the Stepsequencer.
The string filter with all kinds of Karplus Strong sounds is a nice addition and the independent noise filter allows for creating a lot of unsusual special FX sounds together with the string filter. All that can be combined with the other sound elements for double or even three different sound aspects inside a single sound. A nice playground is also the dynamic Phasemodulation stuff the Accelerator can do. At the Spectralis PM sounds are more static with the opportunity to modulate with a LFO. But the velocity sensitivity of the PM modulation opens other doors. Identical to the Spectralis is the opportunity to combine all the different synthesis techniques. PM with Oscillator sync and ringmodulation with sweepable waveforms and TLM modulation. The complexity of the resulting waveforms and the level of realtime spectrum changes can create also very complex digital synth sounds. A lot of sounds will remind you on Wavetable synthesis but with the advantage, that the waveforms can be manipulated much more than typical wavetable oscillators.
The Spectralis MIDI implementation will cover all parts. We will also add a way to control the pattern selection and other things via MIDI. A performance in the Accelerator can control external equipment and should also switch the patterns of the Spectralis.

The Accelerator sequencer differs a lot from the Spectralis sequencer. There is no realtime sequencer in the Accelerator like the pattern sequencer in the Spectralis. Also the memory is more limited. You have 8 step sequencers with one polyphonic note line and three parameter lines each. You can select sequences automaticly by assigning the sequences to a performance. If you switch from one performance to the next, also the sequences will get selected. So - you use performances like patterns. Additionally the Accelerator has so called chains were Performances can be set into a row. That would be an opportunity to organize songs but so far I can not say, if the performances in such a chain will get selected automaticly for an automatic song chain. The decision is only a couple of days in the future...

But in my little easter egg demo you can already listen to a demo with different patterns I selected manually.

As a conclusion - the Accelerator is a nice sidekick to the Spectralis but not a replacement. It is not a Spectralis keyboard version.
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Re: the final countdown

Postby Leshrac » Sun May 29, 2011 1:00 pm

Jörg Schaaf wrote:
As a conclusion - the Accelerator is a nice sidekick to the Spectralis but not a replacement. It is not a Spectralis keyboard version.


iam quiet sure it isnt ... very thank you for the additional informations !! thats enough for this week !!

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Re: the final countdown

Postby Pschelfh » Mon May 30, 2011 10:06 am

Thanks for the info Jörg.

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Re: the final countdown

Postby Leshrac » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:36 pm

is it done? :) did you finished the manual? when will the homepage updated?
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Re: the final countdown

Postby Jörg Schaaf » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:05 pm

Chain Mode is finished now. You can now organize the presets for 50 Live-Setups/Songs. After selecting a chain, you have 10 memory slots, where you can organize the sounds, splits, duals or performances of the Accelerator. That makes the sound selection of a song very easy, as you have up to 10 sounds or combinations of sounds under your fingertips without switching banks or modes. Furthermore, one can use the next button or a footswitch to increase the slot number in a performance.

We also started implementing the part modulation matrix (the voice modulation matrix already worked for months). We are calling this matrix the global matrix because you can also reach Bus parameters. You can for examples modulate FX parameters with the modulation wheel or a LFO. Cool especially because the Accelerator saves FX parameters for single sounds.

But we also had to fix a bug during the last days that caused expansion modules to crash at string filter sounds.

Currently Andreas is implementing more zone parameters for the masterkeyboard control functions of the Accelerator. In a performance the Accelerator not only controls it's own parts - zones can also control MIDI expanders. You can built velocity layers with external instruments or split zones for controlling different parts of a Spectralis or any other multimode machine.

So - we made a lot of progress during the past week and I am quite sure, Andreas will finish the firmware development in a couple of days.
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Re: the final countdown

Postby Leshrac » Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:32 pm

almost wonderful :)

following some questions about the spectralis after you mentioned some features of the accelerator and
maybe they´re portable to the spectralis

would it possible to portade the feature of fx parameter saving to the spectralis (maybe: save with or without fx)
also controlling the FX parameters .. is that portable to the spectralis?
is it possible to chain songs on the spectralis with the following update?
can we chain some presets or modulate sound startpoints
(step by step exchanging of configurations while loading)

very interested what the accelerator would be if its finally done .. the feature list is over every standart VA synth.
iam quiet sure if the os works well, the ACC will remove some synths out of some setups of live keyboarders.
the funniest feature is the 3d sensor, nice "dreingabe"

(i think the final countdown is a good topic for the progress state and getting infos for calming the spectralis users because of upcoming informations. dont feel stressed by the questions 8) you do a good job !! )
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Re: the final countdown

Postby Jörg Schaaf » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:13 pm

Leshrac wrote:almost wonderful :)

following some questions about the spectralis after you mentioned some features of the accelerator and
maybe they´re portable to the spectralis

would it possible to portade the feature of fx parameter saving to the spectralis (maybe: save with or without fx)
also controlling the FX parameters .. is that portable to the spectralis?

That makes not so much sense, as the Spectralis has no multiple FX busses. If you need to recall a sound with all parameters you should store the sound with a pattern and set the FX to pattern saving.
is it possible to chain songs on the spectralis with the following update?

As the Spectralis has to reorganize the whole sample memory, there is no way to chain songs.
can we chain some presets or modulate sound startpoints
(step by step exchanging of configurations while loading)

I am not sure, what this question is all about? You should explain me your idea in more detail.
very interested what the accelerator would be if its finally done .. the feature list is over every standart VA synth.
iam quiet sure if the os works well, the ACC will remove some synths out of some setups of live keyboarders.
the funniest feature is the 3d sensor, nice "dreingabe"

It's better to call the Accelerator a Live performance synth. It will not be limited to VA sounds. The string filter opens already the doors for some nice modelling synth sounds and the tonewheel emulation module goes also in a different direction. I am so surprised about the quality of these string filter FXs that I would really like to experiment more into this direction. Another PM algorithm with more operators would also be a nice thing.

(i think the final countdown is a good topic for the progress state and getting infos for calming the spectralis users because of upcoming informations. dont feel stressed by the questions 8) you do a good job !! )


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Re: the final countdown

Postby Leshrac » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:10 pm

can we chain some presets or modulate sound startpoints
(step by step exchanging of configurations while loading)


I am not sure, what this question is all about? You should explain me your idea in more detail.



the step by step thing was the idea qith the song chaining .. as example
a sound would replaced by the sound of the part in the next song ... so on in that time the machine will need to rearrange
the sound memory. same used sounds can hold in the memory, others will droped fully until a reload of the slc or sli.

the other idea is the CONTROLLED modulation of the start point of a sample by a SYNCED/free lfo or a new implemented part envelope (routable to this startpoint or useable as pitch envelope or second filter envelope .. )
..or the osc wave (a value at +3 will "rotate" the osc encoder positiv .. opens new possibilitys i figured out)

but this is not the wishlist thread :)
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Re: the final countdown

Postby Leshrac » Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:52 pm

which amount of presets are saved when it gets shipped? are they categorical listed (like the spec did)?
heared some nice new demos with the arp or the stringfilter. damn it sounds like a e-guitar.

last steps to the finishpoint .. right?
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